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slutpunch

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March 31 2010 12:05 AM QuickQuote

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i always wanted to learn a martial art but it was always too expensive :(. mainly mantis kung fu, I also bought a few books and tried to teach myself capoeira

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March 31 2010 12:15 AM QuickQuote

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Originally posted by: (dave)

Originally posted by: WREN

no-gi grappling is your best option then.

so it's all submission stuff? all i've been able to find are youtube videos and tournaments, no info

Essentially, yes, you are looking for a submission. You can win by points in most tournaments, and wrestlers often attempt to do so (which no one is a fan of). And even if you want to do no-gi, it's still always a good idea to train in a gi, too, if that option is available to you.

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April 1 2010 10:37 PM QuickQuote

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If you're training no-gi, you don't need to train with a gi also. There's not really a benefit in that. No-gi teaches how to lock onto your opponents body rather than clothing, which is much more effective. If all you know is jui-jitsu with the gi, you might now know what to do if you face someone shirtless. If you train no-gi, you can face somebody whether they have a sweatshirt on or if they're butt naked.

Dan Conner

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April 1 2010 10:40 PM QuickQuote

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Originally posted by: (dave)

Originally posted by: WREN

no-gi grappling is your best option then.

so it's all submission stuff? all i've been able to find are youtube videos and tournaments, no info

Yes, submission grappling is just what it sounds like. Basically wrestling with submissions. Instead of trying to pin your opponent, you try to out grapple them, grab a submission, and force them to tap out. Control then submit, that's basically the gameplan.

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April 1 2010 11:06 PM QuickQuote

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Originally posted by: Dan Conner

If you're training no-gi, you don't need to train with a gi also. There's not really a benefit in that. No-gi teaches how to lock onto your opponents body rather than clothing, which is much more effective. If all you know is jui-jitsu with the gi, you might now know what to do if you face someone shirtless. If you train no-gi, you can face somebody whether they have a sweatshirt on or if they're butt naked.

Ehhhhhh. My friends who are pretty high level competitors all say that you should train in the gi if it's an option. It makes you play a smarter game and use more technique than muscle, stuff like that.

I'm not saying only train gi. I'm saying do both, because it's only going to improve your game overall.

(And I've only ever trained no-gi myself, because it's been my only option)

yantastic

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April 1 2010 11:34 PM QuickQuote

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I've only trained in Greco roman fucking

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April 1 2010 11:47 PM QuickQuote

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My older cousin's were 3rd degree black belts in TKD so I started out with them teaching me, went on to boxing for a few years growing up, then got back to TKD when my best friend at the time was an instructor, then tried out JKD, Goshin Ryu JJ for a bit, and aikido for a good time now...I just enjoy martial arts

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April 1 2010 11:53 PM QuickQuote

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Originally posted by: WREN

Originally posted by: SpaceCowboy

I've never taken Martial Arts of any sorts. However now that i'm turning into an old fuck I'm starting to look into the idea of taking some sort of self defense class. Obviously to learn some self defense (last fight I was in was really 15 years ago, and i kick that kids ass) and to get some discipline. I think this will be a big step for me in my overall health. Im not vastly overweight, but i'm not where I want to be physically. I've had desk jobs for the last 3-4 years and it shows.

BJJ/Gracie JJ interests me, as does Tae Kwon Do and Aikido.

Suggestions? ? ?

Normally I'm a hater of traditional martial arts but I've since swayed my opinion drastically. While TKD and Aikido have limited pratical use in a real world situation, they still a great arts to learn. Self-discipline, confidence, and the health benefits are great. They both are stress relievers both in the fact that you will burn off the energy and being they both are traditional they are highly spiritual. I say spiritual in the self-sense. You can be a non-believer and become more spiritual with yourself. It's hard to explain but you'd understand once you start learning. Also are a great way for exercise. Both require you to use your muscles in ways you don't traditionally use them and it will greatly improve flexability (which helps prevent injuries).

As for the more practical side, Jiu-Jitsu is the route I'd go. You get all the benefits from the above but if need be the submissions, sweeps, escapes, takedowns, etc you learn with jiu-jitsu are beneficial in a real world scenario.

In all cases though you can get pretty heavy into it and compete. There is great rewards if you get really serious. A kid Marcus I went to high school with is a national champion in TKD and I believe he makes pretty decent bank on his superfights. As for BJJ you can go "pro" and become sponsored and win a ton of money in the grappling circuits. There are guys that just travel the world competing in different tournaments and thats how they make a living now. Because of the rise in popularity of MMA, BJJ has taken off significantly.

I suggest checking out schools. See what makes sense to you. Martial Arts is a very personal thing so I can only offer recommendations but I'm by no means going to try to sell you on one specific idea.

The first paragraph you wrote can apply great to a description of TKD, but I wouldn't go so far as to label that to aikido, especially if you haven't trained in any style of it for an extended period of time.

WREN

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April 2 2010 7:55 AM QuickQuote

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Originally posted by: Dan Conner

If you're training no-gi, you don't need to train with a gi also. There's not really a benefit in that. No-gi teaches how to lock onto your opponents body rather than clothing, which is much more effective. If all you know is jui-jitsu with the gi, you might now know what to do if you face someone shirtless. If you train no-gi, you can face somebody whether they have a sweatshirt on or if they're butt naked.

Training with the gi will definitely tighten up your No-Gi game. Sure there are alot of submissions, sweeps, even takedowns that require the gi but there are alot that are transferrable to the no-gi game as well. If you put yourself in a bad position in the gi, chances are your done because there is no slipping out with the gi on.

Dan Conner

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April 2 2010 2:16 PM QuickQuote

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I started jui-jitsu with the gi, and switched to no-gi. I liked the no-gi better, and I still feel that it is more applicable in a self-defense type of scenario. If you're used to being able to submit guys who have on a gi (who can't slip out), you might not be so safe against someone really trying to hurt you, unless they're wearing pajamas. All I'm sayin is that everything you can do no-gi, you can do with a gi. Not everything you do with a gi, you can do without. Training with a gi will tighten up your defensive jui-jitsu, because you won't be able to escape as easily. But it could possibly make your offensive jui-jitsu a little sloppy, if you get too used to the extra traction the gi provides.

WREN

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April 2 2010 2:20 PM QuickQuote

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I'm definitely more a no-gi type of person and when I train with the gi I take the Eddie Bravo approach and try not to use submissions/sweeps/takedowns/etc that requires grapping the lapels. Well no, I have one choke from the back that is only applicable with the gi but that's the only submission I use.

I do fully believe that if you are going to learn BJJ you should train with the gi though. Learn the traditional art of it and take No-gi classes for when you decide to compete in any tournament/MMA.

John Barlow